Tzanakis – SKAI: Why do I say “no” to a universal lockdown – Loukidis: Nobody hospitalized with 3rd dose

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“We will see larger numbers, especially from the ICU in the coming weeks,” pulmonologist Nikos Tzanakis told SKAI.

“We were expecting the (yesterday) numbers towards the end of the month, they came a little earlier, which means that the pandemic is in progress and with greater intensity than we thought,” he stressed.

“By December 10, we will see a number between 670 and 730 intubated and the deaths will continue to give high numbers, playing these numbers of 100 deaths until December 20 to 25. I hope it will be a few times that we will go to three digits “.

However, he noted that “last year this week from 21 to 28 November 2020 we saw five times more than 100 deaths with the old executive with the society in Lockdown … This already from November 10, today we see similar or much smaller numbers, with the society open with the Delta strain and with the vaccines “.

He said that “there is a good scenario to flatten the case curve this week, instead of December 5 – December 10, and then start to decline, but the ICU and death curve will take 2 to 3 weeks to flatten.”

“At Christmas we will be stable in terms of cases, with slightly fewer cases of 5,000 to 6,000 cases per day. “All over Northern Greece we have the amazing about 40% over 60 being unvaccinated… What can one say when half of Greece in Northern Greece is unvaccinated at the ages being intubated?” asked Mr. Tzanakis.

He explained that the universal ban is not effective, but at the moment it may even have a harmful consequence, “because we will be locked in our homes and in fact we will leak the virus within the family”.

“To take targeted measures as we took a circular schedule mandatory 3rd dose for shielding the body in those over 60” he noted.

There is, however, the professor pointed out, a lack of targeting for those who have not been vaccinated over the age of 60. “We made proposals such as going door-to-door to the vaccinated through family doctors, and to give economic and social incentives lest we mobilize the vaccinated.”

“No one vaccinated with a third dose is hospitalized”

“In places with a special color, such as in supermarkets, there should be higher protection and good application of the mask,” noted pulmonologist Stelios Loukidis at our station.

However, he stated that it is very important that “45 to 50,000 every day take the third installment and in the next two months we will have a significant number of people who will enter the third installment”.

As the professor explained, “of the patients we have who are vaccinated, there is no patient with a 3rd dose, the second average dose of those who have been vaccinated and treated is close to March, ie there is a period of 7 to 8 months.”

“The person vaccinated with the second dose is not completely uncovered, most of them have a difficult course but they leave the hospital.”

“More than 60, most of them vaccinated, are also treated with subjects. “They die, mostly of old age, when the semester has passed with subjects who are very much related to their defense,” he explained.

The percentage, he noted, is 75% vaccinated – 25% unvaccinated treated in simple COVID beds. 82% – 18% in ICU COVID. “Health professionals must take self-tests, we come in contact with patients,” said Stelios Loukidis.

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