His first interview after his retirement from the White House was given by Joe Biden on the BBC Radio 4 today’s show, criticizing the Trump government’s stance on Ukraine while noting that he was worried about the collapse of US-Europe relationships.

Joe Biden said the pressure from the Trump government in Ukraine to grant territories to Russia to secure a peace deal that would end the battles is “Contemporary soothing measure » Referring to the policy of former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlen, who tried in the late 1930s to calm down Adolf Hitler’s demands in a failed attempt to avoid a devastating totalitarian war in Europe.

Talking about Vladimir Putin EHe said that the Russian president believes that Ukraine is part of Russia and “whoever thinks he will stop him” if an area is granted under a peace agreement “is just a fool”.

Biden also said: “I just do not understand how people believe that if we allow a dictator, a villain, to decide that he will take important sections of land that is not his own, this will satisfy him. I don’t exactly understand that. “

Ukraine and Russia ‘should both give part of the territories who are at the moment, ”he added.

He also said that he is afraid that some countries in the NATO alliance bordering Russia may “simply say that we have to make a settlement” with Putin if Ukraine eventually grants land.

In terms of Ukraine, Biden was disputed whether he provided enough support to Kiev to ensure that he could win the war, rather than simply resisting Russia’s total invasion.

“We gave them what they needed to secure their independence and we were ready to answer, more aggressively, if Putin made move again,” Biden said, explaining the attitude of his government.

The former US president also expressed his concern about collapse US-Europe relationships under President Donald Trump, which, as he said, “It will change the modern history of the world.”

“Europe will lose its confidence in America’s certainty and America’s leadership,” he said, adding that the leaders of Epirus “were wondering, so what can I do now? … Can I rely on the United States? Will she be there? “

Asked about his decision to withdraw his candidacy four months before the November elections and after pressure to answer the question of whether he should have left earlier and had given more time to choose his replacement, he said: “I don’t think it would matter. We left at a time when we had a good candidate. “

“Things have evolved so fast that it was difficult to leave. It was a difficult decision, “he said. “I think it was the right decision. I think … it was just a difficult decision. “

Asked about the way in which Today’s government is facing US alliesthe former president condemned Trump’s calls to the US to recover Panama Canal, acquire Greenland and make Canada in the 51st state.

“What about the good here? Which president ever speaks like that? We are not us, “he said. “We are in favor of freedom, democracy, opportunities, not confiscation.”

Also commenting on Trump’s attitude during his meeting with Ukraine President Volodimir Zelenski at the Oval Office who had not gone too well, Biden commented: “I found it a bit inferior to the US the way it took place.”

When asked about the First 100 days of President Trump’s term of office, characterized by a storm of executive actions as well as sweeping cuts in the size and costs of the federal government, Biden invoked his own history and tried to make a strong contrast between the era that left the post and today.

“Our economy was growing. We were moving in a direction where the stock market was very upward. We were in a situation where we expanded our influence around the world in a positive way, increasing trade, “he said of the country’s situation when he left the White House in January.

As for what conclusion he comes from the start of Trump 2.0 he said: “I’ll let the story judge that,” he said. “I don’t see anything that was triumphant.”