Plevris: It is a vulgar lie that selective transfers are made to ICUs

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“It is a blatant lie that selective transfers of Covid patients to ICUs are made or that closed beds are kept,” said the Minister of Health, Thanos Plevris, answering the topical question of the head of the department and MP of SYRIZA Andreas Xanthou about imports into them.

The Minister of Health, Thanos Plevris, underlined that “there is no shadow” and they say “very clear, vulgar lies, those who talk about selective patient transport, admission of patients to ICU beds or much worse that there are closed ICU beds that do not work or keep them closed they should be managed if they are needed for someone “.

In particular, he mentioned that there is the electronic platform of EKAB “where, as you know, the incident that requires ICU is posted by the treating doctor who has the intubated patient out of the intensive care unit and there is no bed available in his hospital. The posted incidents are visible in all ICUs in the country. The unit doctor who has an ICU bed available, declares readiness and the readiness is approved, at which point a card is issued to EKAB to perform the delivery. The minister said that “if someone says that there is a violation in this process, then he is not blaming any political leader but all these people who participate in this platform, who are two intensive care physicians and EKAB” and therefore “it is vulgar and offensive for some to talk about VIP beds. We do not tolerate insulting the medical and nursing staff of the country “. The minister added that “all doctors who have the relevant codes have access to this platform, so there is no prioritization”.

Mr. Plevris stated that the 5 criteria that exist from EKAB are: The seriously ill. Patients with little chance of recovery. Patients with organs in need of intensive care. Patients with a significantly lower chance of recovery and finally patients, who unfortunately in the situation where they are – and there is no ICU bed – are considered that there is no expectation. These, said Mr. Plevris, are the criteria of EKAB and “clearly there are neither age nor acquaintance criteria, as some say. They are medical criteria, purely based on the possibility and the possibility that exists “.

The Minister of Health stated that based on the data of the four months, for Covid and non Covid incidents, the average stay of intubated outside the ICU “is from a few hours to two and a half days. That’s the average. ” He noted that if we go to individual cases, there may be cases that took longer or others that were served immediately, but this is the average of how the platform serves and serves our fellow human beings who need ICU.

He described as “completely unfair the criticism of the inclusion of intensive care units and the private health sector”, saying that “all available ICU beds in the private sector, immediately enter the platform.”

Regarding the scientific study of professors Tsiodra-Lytra, the minister reiterated that “no study has arrived in Maximou, no study has been submitted to the Ministry of Health, I searched for the protocol, but also the conclusions of the study, all one by one. We had faced an attempt to prevent people from reaching hospitals and ICUs “because what the study shows is that” if we have more than 400 intubated patients, no matter how many ICUs there are, it is difficult to manage the cases “.

Regarding the recordings of the pandemic data, Mr. Plevris stressed that “we follow the strictest recording system so that there is absolutely no reproach”.

The head of the sector and MP of SYRIZA Andreas Xanthos, for his part, blamed the government and the ministry for the obvious inadequacy of the health system to respond to the increased pressure of the 4th epidemic wave. She spoke of an evolving health tragedy with the extreme expression that there are intubated patients every day outside the ICU. He said that the “red line” was supposed to be the endurance of the health system and that it has been violated for a long time. “The government,” he said, “has a rhetoric that ‘we are doing everything well’ and that the opposition is destroying.” The burden of the Covid incidents, he said, should be shared between the private sector and military hospitals, there should be a more transparent, credible management, there should be a climate of trust in society that people are prioritized based on purely medical criteria and that there is no in case the order is skipped – the government does not meet this need. Referring to the Tsiodra-Lytra study, he spoke of the existence of criminal political responsibility, emphasizing that “Society demands clear explanations and answers.”

He described the synergy between the NSS, the private sector structures and the military hospitals as insufficient, while, as he said, the “Henry Dunant”, which has 40 intensive care units, could have been used to the full, to become exclusively a Covid hospital. as in 424 in Thessaloniki and to form two reference hospitals, together with “Sotiria”, in the care of Covid and to decompress the health system. He noted that “saying that the private sector has no more beds available is convincing. The question is: does the public and private health systems have the same speed today? When we have war and battle we mobilize all the forces, we better share the volume and the pressure to withstand the health system and its people and to avoid the drama of the intubated outside the ICU. You did not do it and you have a huge responsibility for it. “Shadows for management are important and remain so.”

Mr. Xanthos concluded by saying that “with the moral bankruptcy that the Prime Minister personally suffered the day before yesterday with the case of the Lytra-Tsiodra study, with the attitude you hold towards the NSS staff, you are not helping the necessary climate of trust that is crucial to overcome a public health crisis “.

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