“It’s horrifying that a machine decides what we consume” he said, among many others, in an interview he granted via ZOOM to Dazed n Hunter Schafer and talked about social media algorithms, learning to set boundaries, and being one of Mugler’s Angels.

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“Mugler’s legacy is simply incredible. They brought fashion and fragrance to the world that could not exist without them. I think that’s something I’m honored to be a part of“, he said.

For the Angel Elixir perfume campaign shoot underlined: “It was so cool. It was what I imagined shooting a superhero movie would be like. I was flying high on wires, about 15 meters high. It was so much fun! I do a lot of photography and filming and I’ve never done anything like this before. So it was a new experience to work in that way and really cool that we were able to do all that, what they use in Marvel movies, to make a fashion film».

She admitted that she has a lot of fun with beauty, as seen with the Studio Ghibli-like nails she’s been seen wearing or the sculpture mask she wore at the 2021 Met Gala.I have fun with all these ways to put together looks that are just out of this world. I can use my imagination with other amazing creators to develop these images, ideas and concepts. Sometimes it’s like a big art project. That’s why I like filmmaking and making movies or TV shows because it gives me the feeling of being part of a bigger project.“, he confessed.

By spending so much time in the public eye on her, is she setting boundaries to maintain her sense of self and identity? “It’s really, really, really important, and that’s become clearer. I got into it (ie this industry) when I was 19 years old. Today I’m 24, and I feel like I have a pretty good sense of what to keep to myself and what to put out into the world. Because presenting something to the world, whether you like it or not, changes your relationship with it.

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I often describe it as giving birth to a child. When I was directing music videos, it felt like this birthing process where I put work into something for three months or something and it’s mine or mine and my friends. And when I show it to the world and it’s re-contextualized, there’s opinions and everything that breaks your bubble“, he said.

Artists Dazed has spoken to have talked about how social media makes it hard to experiment with different art forms or just try new things because everyone is seeing everything all the time. “Yes, it’s also horrible with this algorithm – I don’t want to go into the algorithm and the spiral but everything you consume is chosen for you by something that is not tangible. Even when you’re getting inspiration or just consuming in general, I think it’s really important to broaden your horizons beyond social media because it’s a little creepy that some machine somewhere in a building is deciding what you consume“, he commented.