Russia and Migration described Mr Ole Diehl, Vice President, German Federal Intelligence Service (BND) as the main threats to Germany, in a discussion with Mr. Terry Martin, a DW News special presenter, which took place in the 10th Economic Forum of Delphi. April 12th.

Mr Ole Diehl asked about his service relationships with the US after the election of Donald Trump, noted: “I still trust them because at the highest level of labor we have good relations, but I believe and I am afraid that in the future the US political leadership will force them to focus on other issues or have any other perspective on issues that we had common” He stressed, however “We don’t want this to be a self -fulfilling prophecy. We work together, but we are also preparing for a time when we will not“

At the same time, commenting on the situation in Ukraine, he said that what was happening there “is not only about Ukraine, but also about the security of countries in Eastern Europe. Even for US security, though they don’t see it now. It is not a conflict in which the Russians just want to take part of the former USSR. They want a new security class. They want to have a say in European countries, “he noted.

In fact, he was alarming the alarm, arguing that Russia could “test” whether NATO is ready to activate Article 5 of its Articles of Association.

“Russia will try to put Article 5 of Test NATO. We will not see Russian tank in Berlin, but they may do so in Estonia. All Europe’s capitals will be called upon to decide whether it is an activation of Article 5“, He stressed.

“We have information that Russia is already in war with us. In a hybrid war with sabotage and fake news. Trying to influence fake news elections is yesterday. There are threats to our underwater infrastructure. Sabotage, cyberattacks, all sorts of attempts so populations feel insecure“, He commented.

Finally, asked about the threats facing Germany, he replied: “It is Russia and it is also immigration. You need a new approach to immigration and Germany and in many European countries. It is a threat not because we have a million Ukrainian refugees, but because we have many more millions of Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis who make our population cautious about immigration. Incorporating a huge number of young men from these countries is not easy. Many of them are not integrated and radicalized through the internet. “